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It's hard to imagine that John McCain couldn't have been happier today when Bush echoed his call for drilling up and down our nation's coastlines. It was hard enough to pass the laugh test when he claimed his plan wouldn't have any affect on gas prices soon. Now this ridiculously over-hyped plan has the stamp of approval from the one person we all need to avoid - a president who is not only an oil man but who's also been wrong on just about every issue over the course of the last eight years.

Even without the Bush kiss of death, most of us could see through this nonsensical idea. To hear McCain or Bush talk you'd think gas was going to be pumped straight out of the ground and directly into your gas tank. Most of us realize however that is takes a long time to build derricks, pipelines to reach land, and the refineries to process this oil. They may try to sell this as immediate relief at the pump, but it is going to take nearly a decade or more to realize those few pennies at the pump, according to the Energy Information Administration. What McCain and Bush are not saying is how their friends at the oil companies are sitting on -- get this -- 68 million acres of land leased to them by the American taxpayer, 68 million acres!! This represents domestic oil and gas production waiting to be had -- only the oil companies aren't doing anything about it. In the long run, this drill, drill, drill mentality only ends up drilling us into a deeper hole. The continued dependence on oil is disastrous for our economy and toxic for our planet. the economic dangers now and in the future are obvious by just looking at what our reliance on oil is doing to our nation today.

There are so many reasons why the Bush-McCain drilling plan is absurd. There are hometown reasons, like the threat to our beaches. There are national reasons, like the failure to lower gas prices. And there are global reasons, like the future of our planet.

In the end, this is a plan that brings relief to oil companies, not American families. These guys just don't seem to get it that the future is in renewable energy, alternative fuels and energy efficiency, not in oil. But then again, I guess we shouldn't expect anything more from a president who is an oil man and the candidate he supports, who chose to give his big energy and environment speech in Houston, oil capitol of the nation.......
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Scott53 read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 5:49 AM

So what's the dems plans to lower gas prices?

Goldbug read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 6:23 AM

It is stupid not to use our own oil instead of buying it from our enemies. The moratorium on drilling should have never been put in place to begin with but it was so now it is time to lift it. As soon as the news of the moratorium being lifted hits the air, the price of crude will plummet. Yes it will take some time to get up and running. Even if it takes 10 yrs. we should get started now. Had we started during the Clinton administration we would be self sufficient today! Spewing left wing talking points is no solution. Listening to politicians who have no idea what they are talking about, is idiotic.

Developing new technologies for the future is fine but today this country runs on oil. We have oil, lets use it.

dhw1949 read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 7:09 AM

There is also lots of shale oil to be had, but the tree huggers are against it, what IDIOTS!
Start drilling now, export not another drop of oil, cut off all foreign aid and our economy just might recover before it's too late.

aksjfd read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 11:11 AM

dhw--you are the idiot. The cost of getting oil from shale is incredibly expensive which is why we've never done.

Ah, forget it. THese people who think it's a great idea are voting for men who never said they were intelligent. In fact, they have advertised their stupidity. So, it's stoopid voting for stoopid.

jteamaz read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 1:14 PM

Goldbug, I agree with you, the moratorium on drilling should have never been put in place. My point is that the plan is over-hyped, and will take years to implement. At least by the time everyone gets done fighting about it. Today I read that the Democrats want to nationalize the oil refineries.....just what we need, more socialism. I think we should put the priority on new sources of energy, whatever they may be. This country has accomplished some great things in the past. Removing the dependency on oil should be top priority right now. Drilling for more oil should only be a temporary fix. In the meantime, America needs to learn how to do something it's never been able to learn, conserve. We need alternatives NOW, not 5-10 years down the road.

jteamaz read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 1:36 PM

And here's another tidbit of info. for those of you that may or may not be interested. The New York Times is reporting today that four of the big western oil companies are in final negotiations with Iraq about returning their foothold on oil contracts some 36 years after losing them to nationalization when Saddam Hussein rose to power. Exxon/Mobil, Shell, BP, and Total are in contract negotiations with Iraq's Oil Ministry for "no-bid" contracts to service Iraq's oil fields, according to the Oil Ministry, oil company officials, and an American diplomat. The deal is expected to be announced around June 30th. This will lay the groundwork for the first commercial work in the country since the American invasion and occupation.

jteamaz read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 1:54 PM

These no-bid contracts are unusual for the industry, and the offers prevailed over others by some 40 other countries, including China, Russia and India. The contracts will give these companies the advantage on future contracts in the hope of stepping up world supply. There has long been suspicion in the Arab world and in the American public that the U.S. went to war in Iraq precisely for the oil wealth, all under the guise and disguise of controlling terrorism. It is expected that after repairs and some reconstruction that Iraq can produce upwards of 4-6 million barrels of oil per day, hence alleviating the tight supply of crude on the world market, and our oil companies have the contracts, big surprise.

Well, there you have it. There are those of us that always assumed this invasion and occupation of Iraq was all about the oil, looks like we were right. The truth always comes out eventually. Was all the death, destruction and upheaval, our multi-trillion dollar debt all worth being able fill our gas tanks?? History will not speak well of us when all is said and done.

azrob read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 2:25 PM

The Demos have been voting down oil drilling for the past 20 or more years. They've always said (and still do) that "it will be 10 years before it will be completed". The Alaskan pipeline took 3 years to finish and our technology is 100% better today. Listen UP!-- 67% of the American people want drilling NOW! WHY are the Demos so against it--they LIKE $5.00 (and higher) per gallon gas? We have the most oil reserves in the whole world (100 years worth) and all we've been doing is making the idiot terrorists in the Middle East RICH! Yes, we need alternative sources of energy but it "ain't" gonna happen overnight. Our country needs more nuclear power stations which would free up billions of gallons of fuel. The Demos don't like that either. We are currently 10 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt not counting the 30 to 40 TRILLION our country owes in financial commitments. We are irrevocably bankrupt and it's just a matter of time before we have to devalue our dollars just like Mexico. Pity our 401k's.. The Chinese are now drilling 60 miles off Florida's coast and we can't do a d____m thing about it. McCain proposes changing the Federal law so that drilling can be done off shore IF THE STATES WANT TO! McCain's plan puts the STATE in charge instead of our dysfunctional Congress and Federal government(Yes, I agree that it is too bad that Bush had to open his big trap)... The other evening on CNN, the governor of Alaska told a reporter that Alaska is now suing the Federal Government because they want to drill for oil and the Federal Government won't let them. This is becoming INSANE

DMG2FUN read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 2:43 PM

The leftist aka progressive treehuggers blame every world problem on oil. One has to wonder if this hatred for oil by the leftist aka progressive treehuggers is because they are not the ones making money off of oil.

So tell us ole wise leftist aka progressive treehuggers why aren’t the leftist aka progressive treehuggers developing these other energy sources.
So tell us ole wise leftist aka progressive treehuggers why should we tax the profits of a legal business to pay for this leftist aka progressive treehuggers dream of other energy sources.
So tell us ole wise leftist aka progressive treehuggers why you still use hated oil?
So tell us ole wise leftist aka progressive treehuggers why you passed epa laws that add about 2 dollars to the cost of a gal of gas.

dhw1949 read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 2:52 PM

aks--ok you arrogant sow, try googling "shale oil" and do some reading before you go running your mouth.
http://www.dailyreckoning.com/rpt/OilShale.html
It used to be prohibitive to get oil from shale, but with the current price per barrel, that is changing. Anything this country can do to get out from dependence on oil from the mideast or Venezuela is a step in the right direction.
Of course, you are so affluent that you could care less, as you've boasted so many times.

aksjfd read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 4:31 PM

You're right, I couldn't care less. I think it's great that these high oil prices are forcing us to develop new techs. Having said that, it is time for you to do your research:

"Oil shale, a fine-grained sedimentary rock, contains significant amounts of kerogen (a solid mixture of organic chemical compounds), from which technology can extract liquid hydrocarbons. Authorities have described the name oil shale as a promotional misnomer, since the rock is not necessarily a shale and its kerogen is not crude oil; it requires more processing than crude oil, which affects its economic viability as a crude oil substitute." (Wiki)
According to the survey conducted by the RAND, a surface retorting complex (mine, retorting plant, upgrading plant, supporting utilities, and spent shale reclamation) is unlikely to be profitable unless real crude oil prices are at least US$70 to US$95 per barrel.(Wiki)

aksjfd read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 4:34 PM

" The industry is proceeding cautiously, due to the losses incurred during the last major investment into oil shale in the early 1980s, when a subsequent collapse in the oil price left the projects uneconomical.[4]" (Wiki)

It's a big risk and not a short term solution. Heck, it may not even be a long term solution considering all car companies are developing cars that won't need gas, thereby reducing demand. Once we get out of Iraq and these tech spread, the US will lose MILLIONS developing a tech that is behind the times. We need to put this money into making batteries with a longer life. This will not only help the gas crisis, but also the energy crisis and will make it possible to use solar and wind energy to power our homes.

Goldbug read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 4:53 PM

jteamaz, It may take years but we need to get started. If we had started while Clinton was in office, we would be selfsufficient today. To keep putting it off is not the solution. I agree we should be developing new technologies but they are not readily available or affordable yet and the country is currently running on oil so lets use our oil until something else comes along. If what you say regarding Iragi oil and American companies is true, I'm not doughting you, I just haven't seen it yet, that sounds like good news. I still think it is wise to drill our own here at home because of the instability of the mid east region.

JustMePA read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 5:26 PM

The simple fact is we need to do many things to solve the problem.
We need to drill, mostly offshore but also in ANWAR and other areas where it is fesable.
Cngress needs to pass legislation allowing additional refineries to be built,
Congress needs to allow nuclear plants to be built, generating electricity is the biggest user of oil and coal.
The goverment should give real incentives to US automakers to develop an electric car that gets 300 miles or more per charge.
Eventually the goal would be no need to import oil. That is many years off under the best scenerio but we need to start now.
We heard the same during the oil embargo of the 70's but the goverment did nothing.
Lets not let this be a repeat. Demand that your congressmen and senators do all that is needed.
If we don't then it's all of our faults.

jteamaz read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 7:15 PM

Goldbug, what you say is true. I'm all for domestic oil production, and I hope we have as much as they claim. But, do you remember back in the 70's when OPEC turned off the spigot? There were shortages, rationing, long lines etc. That's when fuel effecient vehicles from Japan were introduced into the market from Honda/Toyota/Nissan (then Datsun) and the push was on to conserve. The national speed limit was lowered etc. When things stabilized we went right back to our old ways, oversized vehicles and just wasting in general. We've adopted bad buying habits, bad driving habits and now it's happening again. Part of the point of my post was pointing out that the oil companies have been allowed access to over 68 million acres that they've basically ignored. It doesn't require much thought to realize that they're enjoying record profits, and why shouldn't they? They have a captive audience, a nation that runs on oil, and that does not know how to conserve. Increased oil production needs to be a temporary thing, with us, the general public holding our elected officials feet to the fire demanding alternative energy sources. If they can't do it, then bow out and let the American public figure it out. In the meantime do we keep fighting wars over this? I would like nothing more than to see us out of the middle east, but as of now it looks like we're there to stay, as long as the oil flows that is.....

jteamaz read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 7:21 PM

BTW, the media did pick up on the story about the big 4 oil companies picking up the contracts for the oil fields in Iraq. It was only mentioned briefly, and avoided the obvious overtones. Not sure about Fox, I saw it on NBC.

azslammer1
Jun 19, 2008 | 8:35 PM

our nations coastlines have been drilled and the oil has been tapped as reserves a long long time ago i say look on mars for some traces of carbon - the building blocks of fossil fuel! and get the space tanker program into full swing and rake in the big money from all these countries that are doing it to us! they don't have a space program like the U.S.A does!

azslammer1
Jun 19, 2008 | 8:37 PM

BTW what happened to the Alaskan pipeline that was built back in the 60's and 70's that was going to supply our country for hundreds of years to come? is that all reserves now too?

azslammer1
Jun 19, 2008 | 8:52 PM

the problem that is holding up exploration for oil in these wildernesses and our oceans is we have those beloved spotted gray dolphin free wolfowls that need protection from destructive actions!! as you all know these species have feelings too and if we disturb their habita/mating areas we will pay the price and be only able to eat tuna that has dolphins mixed in with em and that will drive all the prices of our commodities through the roof and possibly throw the worlds ecosystem into a free fall that will never recover and everything will become extinct and the whole process can begin anew!!!! just ask
Al Gore! he is already selling carbon credits for the next life!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL P.S. just send a check for 29.95 to Al Gore and you shall be redeemed. Thank You, and Bob Dole endorses this message!

aksjfd read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 11:01 PM

I think I was ignored. Oh hum, here goes again. Don't you feel that you are asking for a solution based on the technology that existed in the 70's to solve a problem in almost technologically energy efficient 2008? You are asking that we get drills and refinaries up and working within a measely 3 years. Sure, we have great technology that can make this happen, but that kind of technology is a lot more expensive and if one mistake is made, we can lose an entire ocean of fish, etc.

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jteamaz

Not much to say actually. Just a normal kinda guy. I drive a truck delivering groceries for a major food chain here in the valley. Try to keep educated on local and national events especially those concerning corruption and moral ineptitude by our "elected officials." Very much for protecting our freedoms and rights, always open to new ideas and discussions. I don't identify as Democrat or Republican, and don't like to be labeled as liberal or conservative. Just try to stay responsible and informed as possible.

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