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phoenixJane

by phoenixJane from Arizona

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Regarding a recent incident of drug violence in which Mexican nationals with AK47s sprayed a house with bullets to commit murder, a myfox blogger sympathetic to Phil Gordon's leadership in handling the incident wrote:

"Do drugs sell drugs get killed by drug cartel. The people living in that neighborhood had to of known that drugs were being dealt out of that house. They did nothing to stop it so therefore they are as much to blame. Shite happens, even in a Lilly white suburban neighborhoods."

More context:

"NO ONE has attacked America since 9/11 that I recall. It was a drug dealer getting revenge simple as that. No Mexican Military was involved. This is a non story that was blown out of proportion because a Phoenix PD mouth piece isn't getting the equipment he desires."

That presumably responsible Americans accept violence and lawlessness at this level under any circumstance is a huge problem in this country—one of the biggest. And to suggest that residents not only endure it, but do nothing until the Federal calvary comes riding in, is mind-bender. All police have had their hands tied with political strings, and the same factions want the sheriff likewise constrained.

THE PROBLEM

While our identities are stolen, retired diseases are transported over the border, our cars stolen, and we have to dodge drug bullets at night, the very same people attacking law enforcement attack us with name-calling such as fringe, bigots, racists, KKK, Nazis, white supremacists (? LOL), racial profilers, and worse just for speaking out. Yet the blogger above says that any neighbor to such crimes are to blame for the crimes because they did nothing! Therefore: it's our fault when we see someone committing a crime and we don't do anything AND it's our fault when we see someone committing a crime and we do something, because then we're being racist.

Make any sense? Because the folks in this camp wonder why they're not wanted in office.
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dhw1949 read my blog
Jul 17, 2008 | 10:01 PM

pj--People do not know their neighbors any more. When I was a kid growing up in Colorado Springs, our family knew every family on the block. Do many people reading this know maybe more than their next door neighbor let alone the rest of the block??
Mess with drugs/dealing/trafficing, whatever happens to you, you brought upon yourself. For someone totally distanced from the scene to blame the neighborhood is just a self-serving attempt to pass judgement.
Not surprising, I think we know to whom you were referring.

Call2Glory read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 7:08 AM

When I moved into this Scottsdale complex in Jan 2007. My truck was broken into 3 times in the 1st month. There was more BLEEP happening here than I have ever seen in my life. I filed so many complaints but the manager seemed to make a little jokes about every incident. So I went above him and contacted the Apartments Head Office. By the end of February the Manager was fired. A new manager stepped in and evicted nearly half the complex for various and obvious reasons. This complex was a nothing but a party village and crime was prevalent.

I told the Complex headquarters, I am paying far to much feel threatened everyday I live here. Gunshots, Fights in the middle of the night. People screaming hooting and hollering. I threatened that if things weren't done to ensure my safety here that I was breaking my lease and they were going to allow it.

I am just one guy, that caused such a mega change.

What people don't understand is that where you live is your community. You pay damn good money for that place to be your safe haven. If you do nothing about your surroundings then you really can't complain.

DMG2FUN read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 7:37 AM

What does not knowing your neighbors have to do with spotting criminal activities in your neighborhood? Nothing.
The local police can tell you what to watch for. And you are not being a tattletale when you report criminals for their criminal activities.
And there it is no crime to wave at police officers letting them know you appreciate it when they patrol your neighborhood.

The only people crying about crime sweeps are criminals or the people that support criminal behavior.

XTRUCKIE read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 10:19 AM

No Mexican Military connection Huh?
Word on the street is there were a total of 6 shooters. Three got caught by Phx PD and 3 got away.What say you PPD

RDJVZ read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 10:59 AM

PJ if you're going to call me out do it with a sense of pride and stop being a wuss. Boohoo sissy lala. You are nothing more then a whiny crybaby. Your recall effort has lost it's luster and you cry over it. You go as far as to advertise the recall website hoping other whiners will follow suit. The biggest problem in this country are the people that continue to cry about everything, hey like you. People are responsible for their own neighborhoods. DMG is dead wrong when he thinks it doesn't matter if you know your neighbors or not. That is another problem with people these days. They are too self absorbed in their own little lives. If they let drug dealers in and don't do anything, they get everything that comes with it. If that includes people (not the Mexican Military)doing home invasions then that's the spoils of letting your neighborhood fall into decline. It's time people stand up for themselves and take their neighborhoods back. It's simple really. Drug dealer sets up shop molotov cocktails take drug dealer out of neighborhood. Don't wait for the cops take care of it yourselves and stop crying, hey again like you. And for the record the only thing I've said about Arpaio's supposed "crime suppression sweeps" is that it IS racial profiling(see latest lawsuit). Not once have I called you or any other person on this site a racist or bigot. But if the sheet fits wear it. Next time you don't have to call me "a myfox blogger" call me DADDY.

TweetyNMe read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:27 AM

There's a house down the street owned by an out of state investor. Renters are selling drugs. I've lost count on how many times I've reported this. Undercover sits somewhere in the neighborhood all the time. They've gone in and arrested the people a couple of times. The beauty of it all. The place is open for business in less than 4 hours.

If it turns out that there were to be a shootout I would hardly say it's my fault. I'm not the one with an open border let anyone that feels like it traipse in policy.

Why would a blogger blame a citizen for crimes committed by Mexico's citizens? Wouldn't illegal aliens committing crimes be the direct result of open borders, sanctuary city policies, and don't ask, don't tell policies? It's the citizens fault laws aren't enforced? Give me a break. No matter how much effort I put into keeping my neighborhood clean the illegals selling drugs out of that house definitely have the upper hand. It takes only a couple of hours for the 'store' to reopen its doors.

RDJVZ read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:35 AM

See my above post for self solution. It only takes a few seconds to take out that very same "store". Now stop whining you sound like PJ.

nativephoenician read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:42 AM

PJ some people ("a myfox blogger") and there own self importance is mind boggling is it not?

TweetyNMe read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 11:49 AM

I wasn't whining, I was telling it like it is. You may find comfort in taking someone out, myself, I don't share your penchant for murder.

DMG2FUN read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 12:04 PM

As pointed out the only people complaining about the crimes sweeps are people that defend criminal acts. Now we get a leftist aka progressive illegal immigrant loving idiot crying burn them out.

Today on the news they gave s description of a rape suspect. They listed his race, height, and age. The race is Hispanic or Native American. So is this racial profiling? After all in any and all attempts to stop this child rapist they will only being investigating people that fit the description. Oh and investigating people means that people fitting the description may be questioned by the police. Kind of like how the police do crime sweeps.

phoenixJane read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 12:42 PM

Tweety, you actually get it. The police have their hands tied, and since "headquarters" hushed this case from the media, who knows whether or not neighbors reported anything about that house. C2G kudos to you.

RD as for liberals calling names, you showcase my point. Now about that molotov cocktail. Where are you from? Never mind, I really don't want to know. Just more insanity from the radical left winglettes. You promote burning and murdering someone without proof (very KKKish by the way), but how dare a sheriff stop someone with a broken tail light.

Remington700
Jul 18, 2008 | 7:07 PM

They only want to make a better life for them self and there family why would you want to bother the unlicensed pharmacists, after all they bring money into the neighborhoods and they keep your kids busy close to home.
sound familiar?

kid_with_thoughts read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 8:00 PM

RDJVZ i have something for you. Sure you can take care of it yourself but then if your caught you will get in trouble. And when i say caught i mean by the the drug dealers they are some of the worst scum on the planet. They have no conscience and they will kill someone without batting an eye. Also the blogs are here to bring up issues i have yet to hear someone complain on this forum.
And thank you Pheonixjane for bringing up the issue. And in the last year for those of you who do not know. the feds have brought in so many agents From FBI, BATFE, and several other agencies because of the drug problem here in Arizona.

AND one more thing those of you who rely solely on the police forget about it they can't do much. They either have their hands tied behind their backs or don't want to help.

DMG2FUN read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 8:26 PM

For the leftist aka progressives that keep crying the police have their hands tied. What are you talking about?
Do you mean gathering the prober evidence to convict a person of a crime? Well leftist aka progressives once you advise the police that a house fits the definition of a drug house they will investigate.
Yes it takes time. And yes you can do this without even knowing the person that owns the drug house. It is called block watch.
If you have a camera use it. Take pictures and turn them over to the police.

Call2Glory read my blog
Jul 18, 2008 | 9:00 PM

Video is the best weapon used today-

Caught on tape is the best evidence to provide the police. Video may not always hold water when 5 cops are kicking and beating the BLEEP out of someone behind a cruiser but it will get the guy arrested and convicted that walks onto your land and vandelizes your property.

FESKJS read my blog view my photos
Jul 18, 2008 | 10:23 PM

PJ, once again an excellent article that makes a valid point.

Of course the "myfox blogger" responded in typical fashion. Ridiculous, far out and with computer courage.

But back to the subject, what if these intruders had gotten the wrong address and burst into a home with an unsuspecting family??

It's not like that has not happened before.

It seems that the excuses for the illegal criminal will never run out.

DMG2FUN read my blog
Jul 19, 2008 | 4:08 AM

You know Call2Glory the beating you are making a crude remark about was not a bunch of cops doing wrong.
They had followed or chased that drugged up criminal at high speeds at times for many miles through neighborhoods full of innocent people. To include children.
Now the tape used to make the police look bad was only at the end of the chase. Police at that time were instructed to use none lethal force until the suspect stops resisting. If you watch the tape each time the suspect laid down on the ground the officers stopped their none lethal force and backed off. Each time the suspect attempted to get up they reapplied none lethal force until the suspect ceased resisting. It sounds mean but then again they were not dealing with a nice person. Now do I want a police force that acts like goons? When it comes to dealing with dangerous drugged up or drunk criminals, dang right I do.
Same goes for criminals in my neighborhood. Do I want them to feel safe from the police force? No. Should I help the police gather the information needed to arrest and convict them? Yes.

Call2Glory read my blog
Jul 19, 2008 | 8:26 AM

DMG2FUN - I understand where your coming from and yes in part that is true. However, I made reference to a multitude of police vidoes around the country that made headline news concerning Excessive Force. What appears obvious like Police using their cruisers to run people down, Suspects that are obviously under the policemens control that are still taking blows to the head and getting kicked repeatedly well after they had been aprehended. What is obvious in these cases they always report that they have to further review the tapes. I just don't get that!

None the less, Homeowners and anyone interested in protecting your investments. Get video security. The 1st time my truck was broken into... I had a unsettling feeling that some scumbag invaded my life. Some scumbag rummaged through my vehicle and stole from me. It's a sickening feeling that causes you to look at everyone around you as a potential suspect. These scumbags never sleep, they are always prowling around your neighborhood at night while you sleep. Video is the only thing today that brings viable proof to the courtroom and the right person to justice.

azRazz read my blog view my photos
Jul 19, 2008 | 10:20 AM

DMG2 Thank you for your response. I had a drug (Herion) house in my neighborhood & some residents wanted to use a little gasaline to solve the problem. I talked them out of it & by going through my CAO (Community Action Officer) & other city agencies it took 2 years to get them out of my block watch area. (the dealers now have a 480 area code phone #.
A homeownes association Is forming their own block watch. I live in a apt community & get a consession on my rent.
The next block watch training is in Sept. Call your local PPD for time & Location.

phoenixJane read my blog
Jul 19, 2008 | 11:01 AM

FE said: Of course the "myfox blogger" responded in typical fashion. Ridiculous, far out and with computer courage.
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You would think after all myfoxblogger's whining and wailing about racial profiling, bigots, and media hogging, he would have enjoyed seeing his "views" on display. But with a classic hoodlum mental disorder, he feels he has the right to torch the neighborhood. Perhaps the FBI is going to pat him on the back and send him home.

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phoenixJane

Concerned about government and various current events, I started blogging to find how other people were thinking and to share my own thoughts. I'm most interested in politics, energy, and education these days. We are experimenting with life without a television, so I gather news from a variety of sources. Reading real books is a high priority too. It's amazing how informative they can be! I'm an east coast native who loves Arizona and the little bit of wild west that's left.

Member Since: 10/2/2007